Comments on: GET OVER IT! 6 Things Web Developers Need to Get Over

By: Nathan Jones

Nathan Jones — Fri, 08 Apr 2011 09:59:31 +0000

Wise words, David. The web would be a pretty dull looking place if it really were valid wouldn’t it? All you goody two shows with your little 100% badges at the bottom. Your pages are, invariably, a bit boring. I love the fact that it is a bit shabby, the seat covers are torn and a wing mirror sometimes falls off.

and IE… Well I coded my site right, so now it is your go.

By: Musa Musa

Musa Musa — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:21:40 +0000

i totally agree with point #1 “Get Over It! Valid Mark Isn’t THAT Important!”, i had to create custom attributes for image tag just to get some effects work perfectly.

By: Rene Kriest

Rene Kriest — Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:34:57 +0000

David made an excellent point. Technology got that complex that it is almost inevitable to make mistakes so better embrace and use them instead of trying to be less than perfect.

However – since David is an expert coder – there is a difference between doing lame mistakes and conscious mistakes. For example, I dropped using /* */ for commenting out css elements/attributes during test driving my style sheets and simply use a / to make them invalid. The first way is the correct way in terms of css creating policy while the second is correct in terms of how browsers shall react to invalid code which simply means, that the second way is 100% valid in terms of css policy, too. Paradoxical, hu? ;)

Doing mistakes is the best thing you can do to learn and grow.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:24:55 +0000

Valid markup isn’t important? Really?

http://mayakovskij.posterous.com/what-the-fk-is-social-media-now-3

Look right below the slideshow box. That’s why valid markup is important.

By: Alex Cooper

Alex Cooper — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:39:15 +0000

I admit it. There are items here that I need to get over.

By: Jonathon Hibbard

Jonathon Hibbard — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:30:52 +0000

So, uh, why isn’t there a “You don’t have to declare an HTML page with a STRICT doctype” get over it. =] Transitional is fine, and strict is just there for ego (and lots..and lots…of headaches and …well you get the picture.)

By: Jamie

Jamie — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:13:58 +0000

I think a lot of commenters are missing the point of this post. The point isn’t “break the rules whenever possible”, it’s not to follow “the rules” to such an extent that they hamper your ability to get work done. Of course we should strive for valid HTML and such, but hey, if a client wants a link to open in a new window, I’m going to use target=”_blank”. It may break strict validation, but it works in every browser and gets the job done.

Like they say, you can break the rules if you know how to follow them. :)

By: David

David — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:03:08 +0000

It’s hard to get over it, but you may be right!

By: hudson

hudson — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:10:03 +0000

1 & 2 fail, markup shoud be valid. same goes with css.
people/company etc. should follow the STANDARS!

By: Sam Foster

Sam Foster — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:43:44 +0000

@Dave Ward: I think you missed the point. Expando attributes aren’t really a problem that need fixing.

..But, while I’ll be the first in line to echo David’s get over it, a clean report from the validator is a quick way to rule out a whole class of problems when you are troubleshooting an issue. Ditto for validation-breaking css hacks.

Same goes for js syntax FWIW, another rich ground for get-over-its.